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Travel Nursing – How to get Your California RN License by Endorsement

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California is a great place for travel nurses to be licensed. The state’s population is over 37 million and accounts for more than 10% of the nation’s total population. A large population means more hospitals and more potential travel nursing jobs. In addition, California has something for everyone. It’s got some of the greatest cities in the world, a swath of rural communities and quaint small towns, beaches, mountains, and even desserts. So, as a Registered Nurse, how do you obtain your California RN license by endorsement?

[Update 2/24/2014: The California Board of Registered Nursing is currently experiencing some major problems with its licensing process. This is affecting all new licenses including California RN licenses by endorsement. Please follow this link to read more about the problems. You can also view the comments below this blog post to see what others are going through.]

There are essentially 2 paths you can take to obtain your California RN license by endorsement, the long path and the short path. Under normal circumstances, the long path typically takes six to eight weeks and the short path can take as little as 24 hours. As mentioned above, there are currently delays that are obfuscating the entire process. The issues are being resolved but there is still a backlog.

Fingerprinting for your License by Endorsement

That said, the difference between the short path and the long path rests largely with the fingerprinting process. You see, California requires that they receive the results from a federal Department of Justice (DOJ) fingerprint check before they will issue any license, temporary or permanent. There are two ways to get your fingerprints checked.

The first, which is the long path, is to request a fingerprint card from the California Board of Nursing (CBON). They will send you a paper fingerprint card with all the applicable instructions. You will go somewhere that provides fingerprinting services, like a local police station, where you will be fingerprinted the old fashioned way. You will then mail the fingerprint cards back to CBON along with all the other required documentation (discussed below). The CBON will then mail your fingerprint card to the Department of Justice who will run the fingerprints and report back to CBON.

It’s important to note that during the aforementioned crisis, many nurses have experienced major delays in receiving a fingerprint card from the CBON. Some have commented on this blog that they are using the standard fingerprinting card that can be obtained at any fingerprinting location. Basically, the cards sent from California are the standard cards, but they have all the required information pre-printed on them. If you use a blank standard card, then you should include the following information: (again, this comes from nurses who have commented on this blog):

 The following is the information I put on my cards (and by the way, my license was just issued to me on Friday using these cards):

Board of Registered Nursing, DCA
PO Box 944210
Sacramento, CA 94244-2100
ORI# A0391
Reason: Nursing license

That goes in the address portion on the left of the card directly above where the fingerprints would go. There is also an ORI# for the CA DOJ. This information is closer to the right side of the card directly below where you would have your name:

CA0349400
CA DOJ-BUR OF IDENT
SACRAMENTO, CA

I typed labels to make sure it was clear enough to read because the areas are small to write in.

You can probably already see why this is the long path. Snail mail and bureaucracy are involved on multiple levels. This process is the reason that CBON quotes 6-8 weeks from the time they receive your completed packet to issue your license. To make matters worse, the old-fashioned ink-on-paper fingerprint method is imperfect. I’ve experienced several cases in which the nurse’s fingerprint was smudged and therefore unreadable by the DOJ’s fingerprinting system. Of course, you don’t find this out until the fingerprints have been run and the results have been sent back to CBON. This can be a huge delay. So, if you choose this route, be very careful with your fingerprints. Allow them to dry before stacking them or inserting them in to any sort of packaging.

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The second way to get your fingerprints done, which is the shorter path, is via Livescan. This is the modern version of fingerprinting. Your fingerprints are read electronically and the results are received immediately. As a result, you could have your license in less than a day as long as the rest of your paperwork is in order [10/20/2013, update: The California Board of Nursing is not currently issuing Temporary Licenses by endorsement at the board's front counter due to technical difficulties]. The catch is that you must be in California in order to get the Livescan completed. To be clear, you cannot perform the Live Scan outside California. You can obtain the LiveScan form for an RN license by endorsement here.

2-7-2014, Update: We have received numerous reports of delays in processing temporary California RN licenses by endorsement even when LiveScan fingerprinting is submitted with all other required documentation. This is due to the problem CBON has experienced with the implementation of its new Breeze computer system.  In the mean time, please factor this information into consideration when reading the information herein.

You’ll notice that there are 3 copies of the LiveScan from. You need all three of them. The first copy stays with your LiveScan provider. The second copy must be submitted to the board with your application as proof. The third copy is for your records.

You also need to find a Livescan location. They aren’t everywhere, so make sure you know where you’re getting it done before you make your plan.  There is a Livescan location a few blocks from CBON where you could complete the process. You could then return to everything together to the CBON office. If you elect to do this, then you should get started early in the day to ensure there’s time to complete the process before CBON closes for the day.

Finally, it’s important to point out that if you go the LiveScan route, then you will be paying the LiveScan provider for the service. The charges vary from provider to provider. If you go the manual route, then you will have to pay a processing fee to the CBON. There may also be a fee charged by the service that completes your manual fingerprint.

Regardless of which fingerprinting method you choose, it’s imperative that the name on your fingerprint cards or Live Scan form match the name on your application for endorsement.

Other Required Documentation

No matter which fingerprinting path you select you’ll need the following:

1) Application for Licensure by Endorsement

Complete the Application for Licensure by Endorsement. The application can be printed from CBON’s website.

2) Passport Photos

You’ll also need a recent 2×2 passport style photograph. These can be quickly obtained at many places including most FedEx Office stores.

3) License Verification

You’ll also need a Verification of License for your home state license. In the vast majority of cases, this will be accomplished on Nursys, which is the online license verification system used by most states. It’s important to note that Nursys license verification is available immediately, but they are only good for 90 days. So it’s smart to request the verification close to the time you’re ready to submit all the other paperwork.

If you’re in West Virginia, Georgia, Alabama, Oklahoma, Kansas, Illinois, or Pennsylvania, then you’ll need to check with your respective state’s BON regarding license verification because these states do not participate in Nursys as of the writing of this article.

4) Nursing School Transcripts

Finally, you’ll also need to request that all your nursing school transcripts be sent the California Board of Registered Nursing.

Again, all of the listed items must be completed regardless of the fingerprinting path you select. You’ll need to contact each school you attended that related to your nursing degree and request that they transmit official copies of your transcripts to CBON. This happens promptly in most cases, typically within two weeks. However, snail mail and bureaucracy are involved so there can be hiccups.

Should you get a temporary license?

As you know, it is possible to obtain a temporary California RN license. The temporary license is good for 6 months from the date it is originally issued. The temporary license is offered to allow applicants to work pending the issuance of the permanent license. The current fee for a temporary license is $50, which is in addition to the application fee of $100.

In order to obtain a temporary license, the CBON must receive and process all of the documentation described above except your college transcripts. So essentially, applying for a temporary license allows you to bypass the processing time for college transcripts. There are two related factors to consider when deciding whether or not this is advantageous.

First, consider the length of time that it will take to get the transcripts processed. Second, decide whether or not you’re going to go with the LiveScan or manual fingerprint method. Transcripts are typically processed fairly quickly. That said, you still need to send the request to your school. And you may have to send multiple requests if you attended multiple schools which can increase the chances of delays. Also, if the CBON needs additional information after they’ve received your transcripts, then they will need to contact your college and wait for their response. This is rare, but it happens nonetheless.

Next, you should consider the transcript processing time in light of the fingerprinting method you’re going to go with. Typically, transcripts will be processed by the time the manual fingerprinting process is complete. But, as mentioned above, there are significant delays with transcripts on rare occasions. However, your transcripts will most certainly take longer to process than LiveScan fingerprints. So you will definitely get your temporary license faster if you’re doing the LiveScan.

Again, this is all assuming normal circumstances at the CBON. And, as mentioned previously, they are currently not operating under normal circumstances. A review of the comments below will indicate some of the scenarios that nurses have recently faced. Please consider this when determining your approach.

In any case, if you are going to go with the Livescan in an effort to get your endorsement license quickly, then it’s probably worth it to file for the temporary license to avoid any mishaps with the transcripts. You’ll still need to send the transcripts in order to get your permanent license; you just won’t have to wait for them to be verified.

If you are going to go with the standard fingerprinting and the long path to licensure, then there’s probably no point in obtaining a temporary license first. This is because your college transcripts, and the rest of your documentation, should be logged well in advance of your fingerprints. It simply takes less time for the transcripts to be verified than the standard fingerprints to be returned from DOJ. However, I advise that you stay on top of both the schools and CBON with respect to the transcripts. Call them weekly until they verify the transcripts have been sent or received.

Prior convictions and disciplinary actions

The final consideration in obtaining your California RN license by endorsement pertains to prior convictions and disciplinary actions. There is no steadfast rule on these issues. They are reviewed on a case by case basis. My recommendation is to go with the long path to licensure unless you reside in California already. There’s no telling how long such issues can delay the process. If you are out of state, then paying extra for a temporary license and going through the hassle of being present for the Livescan will most likely not be worth it if you have prior convictions or disciplinary actions.

Here is the link to the California Board of Nursing’s Licensure by Endorsement page. Here is the link to Nursys.

Let me know if there’s anything I left out and let me know if you have any questions or concerns!

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148 replies
  1. Angel
    Angel says:

    Thought I’d share my experience as well. I sent my application July 24th. I sent standard fingerprint cards from the Texas Sherriff’s Office (make sure that they are federal fingerprints, or else they wont be accepted). My check was cashed on August 20th and was quoted 10-12 weeks from that date. I called the beginning of Oct. and was told that my license would be posted no later than the end of Oct. Called just last week and was told they were still processing applications where checks were cashed in July. Today Oct. 24th my license was posted to the BreEZe website, so hopefully that means they are processing applications quicker now. Hope this helps some people out with their anxieties about this application process, trust me, I was expecting a wait of 5 months, but it came through in 3.

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  2. nicole
    nicole says:

    After months of sending transcripts and trying to get through to anyone at the CBON to see what was holding up my permanent license, I finally recieved it 3 weeks before my temporary expired. So some advice to you all, if you are sending any missing transcripts or other papers, overnight them so you can track them and see who signed that they were recieved in the mail room. To speak with someone about your particular file call the CBON at the end of the day around 4:45pm. The phone lines seem to be less busy atround that time. Also, the people who initially answer the phones can’t give very much information about your particular file. Ask to speak with a supervisor, ( Which you will have to leave a voicemail) but they actually call back within 2 days in my experience. Plus, you can ask for the supervisor’s direct line number so no more waiting on hold for hours to be connected to a voicemail. After I spoke with the licensing supervisor, he answered all of my questions and investigated my profile. I recieved my license the next day.The CBON is really busy and its frustrating but if you are able to speak with a supervisor they are very helpful!

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    • MJ
      MJ says:

      I did my live scan about 6 months before I sent my application in Aug, I’m afraid CBON discarded my results because they didn’t have my app. My check cashed 10/1, should I call to see if they have my finger print results? There are no deficiencies listed yet on the Breeze website. My husband is relocating to CA in Jan I’m afraid I won’t have my license by then. I have already received job offers… Anybody else did this silly mistake and do fingerprints way too early before submitting their application? Should I send in another app for a temp license and do the livescan again?

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  3. Alissa
    Alissa says:

    Just thought I’d share my experience..

    I sent my papers in from Minnesota on July 7th, 2014. I did NOT mail them priority or any faster/stronger/tracking/guaranteed way. I did standard ink fingerprints, i did NOT get mine done with the live scan. I also did not order a print card from California, I used the one my Minnesota police gave me. My check was cashed August 8th. I called at my four week mark just to check in with people there and see my status. They chuckled and said it would still be some time. I called at my six week mark, told to wait it out. Again I called at my eight week, again, told to wait some more (however did mention that my prints cleared). Without any further intervention, My license showed up in the mail on October 17th. On this date their website stated they were processing applications cashiered in June.

    Insanely frustrating process. But, it did work for me.

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  4. nicole
    nicole says:

    My temporary license is expiring in 6 weeks and the BON still hasn’t processed my transcripts that I sent 8 weeks ago. On my application it says if temporary license is expiring approximately in four weeks and you haven’t received a permanent license, call the BON to apply for a send temporary license. Has anyone else done this before? I have tried to call and get more information but the BON is not answering today.

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    • Courtney
      Courtney says:

      This happened to me. Just email them at all the email addresses on the site nonstop. My temp expired only a week after they processed mine

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  5. Gladys Kristine Pescador Cruz
    Gladys Kristine Pescador Cruz says:

    hi I called this number and they told me I can’t endorse my license here in California because I took my Nclex exam in Philippines. She advice me took an Nclex exam again. My license in Florida is active and I’m currently living here in California and I wish to work here as an RN.

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  6. CK
    CK says:

    I might as well throw it out there for all you googlers :)

    For those using 916 and having trouble getting a hold of a representative, use this number instead CBON: 18008386828

    I’m still waiting on my California RN license and it has been almost 10 weeks. They’re only missing my license verification. I’ve resent it twice already. Let me know how it goes, hopefully this helps several of you out there!

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    • E
      E says:

      Is Nursy’s available in your state? It’s way quicker. I submitted mine on June 5 and my license is now on the BreEZe website, although I haven’t received the hard copy in the mail.

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  7. nicole
    nicole says:

    Does anyone have a way of actually contacting the CBON? Every time I call, I can’t get a person on the line and no one responds to my e-mails. I got a notice that they are missing a transcript but I do not know which one and it is holding me up from getting my permanent license.

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  8. SLA
    SLA says:

    Does anyone know if it is still taking 90 days for a temporary license to be issued? I need a license by endorsement ASAP for a volunteer position at the end of July. I am debating about whether or not I should bother to attempt for the temporary license by endorsement. Any advice would be appreciated!!

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    • Steve
      Steve says:

      I filed for endorsement and a request for a temporary license back on February 10th. To date, nothing on either counts. You’re better off not asking for a temporary license. As far as I have gathered, applicants who have requested for a temporary license already but ended up not receiving one at a timely manner will be getting their payments back as soon as the permanent license is granted. So, save your money while you can or take a gamble if you want. My advise is..don’t bother. Hope this helps you make your decision.

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    • Eniko
      Eniko says:

      If you did not turn in your application a month ago don’t even think that you will get anything by end of July. I have spent the last month trying to get things sped up. I have a job I am supposed to start July 14th, but to date I have not had any response. My fingerprint cleared, my transcripts received and my nursys sent. I overnight mailed my application end of May, they didn’t even cash it until June 12th. From the cashing of the check I am being quoted 6-8 weeks for temp or permanent. I have had a representative quote me 4-6 weeks (but said that would be fast). At this point I have quit my job in CO and am praying that everything goes through. I have no choice but to drive out next week and complete all of my pre-screening just in case they take pity on me and grant my temp license by next Friday.

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      • E
        E says:

        I had mine transferred from CO too. Do you know if we need to do anything for the state like surrender the old license or something?

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    • SLA
      SLA says:

      Just wanted to leave an update to my prior post and hopefully give some hope to others out there that this is not an impossible process–I was able to obtain my license by endorsement within a two week timeframe from the CBRN. I have an active NV license on the Nursys verification system and I have the advantage of living in Reno, NV, which is only a 2 hour drive from the Sacramento CBRN office. I was able to drive to Sac for LiveScan fingerprinting to be completed (results were reported in a 3 business days), and then submitted my application with cash fee for the temp and permanent license directly to the front window employee. I explained the cause and the urgency (Muscular Dystrophy Association camp in urgent need of a volunteer RN), and the CBRN was able to process a temp RN license. There were a couple of issues that were brought to my attention that could have delayed the process: 1) Paying by check–it would have taken an additional 5-7 days 2) Paying in July when the CBRN turns over their fiscal year for accounting–creates an additional 5-7 day delay 3) Issues with the CBRN system automatically matching fingerprint results to applicant names–someone had to manually search for mine 4) No one answers the phone to answer your questions, don’t bother trying. I did seek the assistance of my home state’s board of nursing, and would suggest others going through this process do as well. Good luck to all those out there going through the process.

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  9. kirkh
    kirkh says:

    I am confused. How many fingerprint cards (hard copy) are we supposed to send with the application? 1 or 2?

    Can anyone confirm this?

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  10. Dr R
    Dr R says:

    My original application was never found. Sent in March as one package with transcripts ( sealed), application, fingerprint card . . . check not cashed. Another individual with the same name (different SS) has a license – so board not sure if my original application was confused in the system with the individual with an expired licenses. Waited on hold for over an hour to even get to speak to someone. So had to redo the entire process. Just FedEx transcripts from school directly with signature; used the online system to verify active licenses, and FedEx application with signature to main office . . Plan to fly to CA next week to do the “livescan” vs. the fingerprint card. If process not completed by the end of the month I loose the position I was offered as ADON of nursing program. Very very frustration process.

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    • MJ
      MJ says:

      I would like to get some suggestions from some experts in this forum.

      I hold an active RN licence in the state of Iowa. I have 5 years experience in a long term care/Rehab skilled nursing facility. Husband and I are planning on making a permanent move out to Cali. Thus, I am planning on obtaining a CA RN license by endorsement method. My transcript was sent to CA-BORN by my college on June 9th and I sent my licence verification electronically through Nursys on June 7th.

      I still haven’t mailed out the application form as I can’t decide if I want to do the old-school manual fingerprinting or if I should fly out to CA for livescan ($$$$). If I do the hard-copy fingerprinting, and overnight my app tomorrow (June 23) how long would it take for them to send me a temp licence?

      I don’t have a job lined up in Ca yet but we (me and my husband) have already put our house in the market in Iowa. I have been actively applying for a job in Ca (specially in SF area) but no luck yet.I have a feeling that it will probably be easier to get a job once I am physically out there.

      Base on my situation, what would be the right choice for me? livescan or hard copy?

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      • CK
        CK says:

        Hey MJ,

        Do you have the fingerprint cards already? I have requested it twice already and still have not received it. There is more room for error using fingerprint route and usually takes longer compared to the livescan. Mail gets lost, fingerprints get smudged, DOJ/FBI rejects fingerprint cards etc.

        I went on vacation to California (landed in SF) and drove to Sacramento. I did livescan there, then went the to California BON office and handed them my application. My money order was cashed only after 2 days!

        If money permits, I would do Livescan.

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  11. CK
    CK says:

    This is my California RN endorsement updates: (Illinois to California)

    April – I had the state mail the RN license verification and my school to mail my transcripts to California BON.

    May 19, 2014 – I flew in to California for vacation and did the Livescan, also turned in the main application form to the BON Sacramento office.

    May 22, 2014 – Money order was cashed.

    June 4, 2014 – Called BON for status updates, told me FBI/DOJ cleared me but cannot tell me if my RN license verification or transcripts were turned in. Representative asked me to call back June 23.

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    • CC
      CC says:

      Let me know when you get your license. I’m also getting my California RN by endorsement from Illinois. My check was cashed on May 30th.

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      • CK
        CK says:

        Did you register at the Breeze website?

        Currently my license says pending and under deficiencies it says “Missing Education History”.

        According to a person in allnurses.com, it said the same for him/her and it disappeared after a few weeks. I have sent my transcripts back in April and resent them again earlier this month. I’m going to call them this Friday or next Monday to get updates.

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        • CC
          CC says:

          I have been checking my Breeze account, and it also says that I’m missing my education history. I called about it and a guy told me that the notification doesn’t mean that they didn’t receive it, but that it just hasn’t been processed yet. I also sent my transcripts in April. When you call, let me know what you find out.

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          • CK
            CK says:

            Yeah that’s what the person on the forum said too. What number are you calling to get to a California BRN representative?

            I have a number aside from the 916 number, which is ALOT easier to get hold of a person.

            I don’t know if it’s appropriate to post it on here. Email me: kcsantos4@gmail.com

        • E
          E says:

          Have you received your license yet?

          My account also says missing education history. I submitted my information about the same time as you and applied for a temporary license.

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        • Greg
          Greg says:

          I am also applying for endorsement and have been getting the same pending message stating missing education history and I resent my clinical hours. How long did it take to receive the license and what is the best number to call. Please let me know any advice. Thanks

          Greg

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  12. eric
    eric says:

    i took the RN Nclex on 5/29/14, i am getting nervous to see my result. what is the easiest way to see my result, i check from the BreEZe and national board of nursing but no news yet.
    what should i do

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    • CK
      CK says:

      What’s up Eric. I took my NCLEX 2 years ago and did the “trick”, where you re-register for the test again. If it doesn’t let you re-register it means you passed, if it goes to the credit card page it means you failed.

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  13. Cole
    Cole says:

    Does anyone know if the Verification of License form and the Transcript Request forms must be
    sent to the BON and schools or are the online request sufficient? From looking at the forms there is additional info that has to be filled out but many schools use third party transcript companies and the BON uses online verification? Just want to make sure I do everything exactly the way they require it. Thanks guys!

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      • Steve
        Steve says:

        Cole, I never submit transcript requests via utilization of those suggested forms for three reasons: a) they’re more expensive; b) why send the BON an authorization form to request transcripts if it takes them so very long to process applications anyway? It will only delay the process further; c) Universities have the sole right on how to release information as confidential as transcripts. No BON in any State has the right to dictate on University procedures. For example, the CA BON Instructions state that the request has to be directly sent to the School of Nursing, but the University I graduated from has the STRICTEST policy to direct all Transcript Request to the University Registrar. If I were to send it to the School of Nursing, it would have only been treated as rubbish.

        For the above-mentioned reasons, I decided to bring sealed, notarized true copies of my transcripts before I left the State I was in. I sent those in with the application, along with confirmation of an “on-line” transmittal of the transcripts (YES, I sent it in 2 ways just in case…) that sends an electronic copy of my college transcripts directly to the CA BORN.

        Either way is fine, in my estimation. I think that requesting them online, however, will best facilitate the process. You need not worry about the document getting lost in the mail, and the electronic signature can always be traced back to the date, time, and schedule of when it was sent; thus, the BORN cannot deny having received them.

        Hope this helps you. Let me know if you have further questions. The best to you, our dear colleague.

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  14. Joe
    Joe says:

    I’m afraid the only thing that is truly going to persuade CA BORN to move quicker on this is to put immense political and public pressure on this issue. It is affecting patient care, it is putting patients’ lives at risk, it is affecting nurses’ ability to provide for their families, it is affecting the colleges and universities in terms of their graduates and ability to recruit future students, and ultimately turning potential nursing students from the profession at a time where nurses are desperately needed in California. I think ANA, CCNA, and other similar national nursing groups MUST get involved at the political level in order to put pressure on the Board to do whatever is necessary to get this ball moving. Their actions have simply been unacceptable regardless of what obstacles they have faced. There are too many compact states for California to have this much trouble processing license applications, particularly by endorsement. As a travel nurse with active licensing in two other states, it is simply ridiculous to be unable to acquire the ability to work in and help the shortage of nursing in California for such a long period of time. Develop a plan to alleviate the bottleneck immediately or face public and political ridicule – that’s the only answer.

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  15. Elizabeth
    Elizabeth says:

    I recently received a letter of deficiency stating the board needed another copy of my transcript (this will be the 3rd time I send it) and stated my transcript is laking courses taken in social sciences and oral and written communications. I have my bachelor’s, satisfied all of the gen ed courses I needed to graduate, including an RN license in another state. Has anyone else had a problem like this?

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    • Shannon
      Shannon says:

      Hi Elizabeth,
      I’m having the same issue; I’m actually a nurse practitioner with an MS in nursing, but I received a notice saying my transcripts were deficient in oral and written communication. Did you ever get your issue resolved?

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  16. Jess
    Jess says:

    Hello,

    I did Live scan early feb, submitted transcripts and Nursys, I overnighted my application on Feb 18th and they signed for it Feb 19th. My check was cashed on March 13th. I paid extra for a temp license…but I haven’t received anything yet. When I call the CBON they tell me they can’t see if they received my transcripts or Nursys but my fingerprints have cleared. Shouldn’t I be able to get a temp by now?? So frustrating as I have received multiple job offers but I can’t start! My family is struggling big time because of this ridiculousness te CBON has going on!!

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    • Steve
      Steve says:

      I did everything the CA BORN required and more, including not calling them until after 90 days have elapsed since sending in my application. I did my livescan the day before I sent all my documents to the Board, since they also said that it is only good for 90 days and may expire before they get to it. I did not only submit sealed copies of my transcripts and background checks, but I also did a LiveScan and a direct electronic submission of my transcripts directly from the university. To date, nothing. I had been told that the more you pester them with phone calls, the more it will delay processing of one’s licensure.

      It was my understanding that the State Assemblyman was going to pay them a visit, but I have heard no feedback from what transpired as a result of that visit. Frustration is the least of our problems, but the financial repercussions brought about by inefficiencies in the State Board not only put us at a bind, but also ruin our credit. Not very many of us sit on cash, but does the Board care? Perhaps they do, but I highly doubt it.

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  17. Mike
    Mike says:

    I received an email back in February, I think it was the first week. I didn’t receive my license until 04/02/2014. I sent in the application on November 8, 2013 – they cashed my check on 12/26/2013I applied for temp and perm license.. I went to the BON on March 11, they promised I would have my license in 2 days. I left Sacramento and went to Oregon to visit. Then to AZ, applied for my AZ license on 3/24/2014, I got my temp AZ license the same day I got my CA permanent license. It would seem that something could be done because the CA BON is causing a lot of hardship on a lot of people. It is unbelievable that they would take so long to process an application especially when it is an endorsement and license are held in 3 other states. Never got temp RN license just the perm. one – which is all good, but now I will have to see how long it will take for a refund on the temp license – I was told I was eligible for that refund. They don’t seem to mind that their process is causing many problems for other people. I called 2 sometimes 3 times a week to check on the progress. A lot of times, they did’t know how to respond because they told me many times that I had everything I needed for perm. License. It was ridiculous!!!

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    • Steve
      Steve says:

      Thank you, Mike. I concur, the situation is ludicrous. What is worse is that we have no recourse against the State Boards. Very rarely can State Boards be sued either, since in order to do so, one would have to seek permission from the State. Guess where that leads us?

      Perhaps sending a letter to our State Representatives and our CA Senators would help, but this measure requires group collaboration. We would have to obtain as many signatures as we can to seek their involvement, and for other options that might exact any remuneration from the State, especially as you have pointed out…it has continued to disrupt many lives. Some of us have defaulted in their student loans by no fault of their own.

      Realizing this, there must be some damages that we can demand from the State Board, but we will have to work in numbers and seek legal representation should we decide to go that route. I am on board, should anyone be interested. If this does get to a point where I default in my student loans, I won’t think twice about suing the CA BON, especially since defaulting disqualifies some of us from taking advantage of the new law on student loan forgiveness for nurses.

      Should you be interested in collaborating efforts, kindly send me an email at ej196910@yahoo.com. Thank you.

      Respectfully,

      Steve

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      • Shaune
        Shaune says:

        Has there been anything featured in the news/media regarding this? Do you think that would help speed up resolving this? I’m in touch with one BORN staff member who is at least emailing with me, and although she seems to be sympathetic, she still has not located my transcripts (this is the second time I’ve sent them in) and cannot tell me about a hang up on my fingerprints (which the DoJ said were fine, and they had sent the results to the BORN in December 2013). This is going on 5 months for me…I’m so discouraged.

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        • Steve
          Steve says:

          As always, exposing the obvious seems to generate the most attention, but not necessarily the fastest, nor the best fix. It is not very easy to attack a State Agency. For instance, a huge percentage of students in the State university I graduated form have numerous complaints against its practices…all of which seem to only be silenced without any resolution. State agencies that generate so much revenue have a lot of clout. It is not easy to but heads against them.

          To date, I have not noticed anything from media television that brings the CA BORN issues to the fore. All I can say is that there are, however, a number of online news releases from the CA BORN, itself, including Report Briefs published by the Republican Caucus in the California State Senate on March 12, 2014 (possibly one of the more recent reports that I have come across, thus far). The Brief offers explanations for what most of us probably already know, but unless you haven’t been privy to these circumstances and complaints, you would be best advised reading the publication.

          What I know are as follows:

          1. The transition into a 52-million dollar investment, as we all more familiarly know by now as the BREEZE system, has met with two obstacles since its launch:

          a. Interface modules seemed to have met with interface glitches; meaning the transition was, by no means, seamless. Data that had to be pulled in from the existing software did not integrate quite well with the new software devised by a company called Accenture.

          b. Much blame has also been assigned to inefficiencies of State employees, who find difficulty transitioning to a new system, as can be expected in many group studies. Here, you might agree that we can be free to speculate that the underlying problems are multi-faceted:

           As can be expected, there is a “learning curve” that should have been foreseen by the State Department; and that learning curve varies on many variables, i.e., the State employee’s aptitude and degree of adaptation, and age, among other factors.

           Resistance to Change is a common obstacle, especially in major re-organizations that impact a huge operation.

           Management’s inadequate foresight on these needs as it pertains to the employees’ readiness to adjust to these changes, as well as, ample training to respond to the modifications. As nurses, (the BORN must know it just as well) we are held to higher levels of expectation while operating as public servants and must respond to all grades of catastrophe according to our preparedness. The questions remain:

           Should this agency not be upheld to the same level of preparedness it expects of its nurses, especially as its responsibilities not only impact the public, but all nursing professionals under their governance?
           What sort of Management & Governance has the CA BORN been projecting over the course of these inefficient results?
           Does this agency begin to even try to reach out to all those affected, whose lives are put on hold and whose financial standing, credit, and student loans have been put in peril?

          In all certainty, there are quite a few of us who have more pressing questions than what I can possibly include in this tirade. We are all on the same boat. I am very sorry that it has taken you so long to even just get to where you are at with your application for licensure. You had applied for a license earlier than I did. Who knows how long it will take the CA BORN to get to mine?

          The California Hospital Association has published a very important article that discusses the CA BORN’s updates on RN Licensing delays (BJ Bartleson, 2014). It would also behoove you to peruse the article, in case you find anything that might pertain to your situation. For your convenience, the link to this February 28, 2014 Press Release is http://www.calhospital.org/cha-news-article/california-brn-provides-updates-rn-licensing-delays

          According to CA State Senator, Cathleen Galgiani’s website, published on April 04, 2014. The State Senator has already stepped in to help alleviate Professional Nurses’ frustrations pertinent to the CA BORN delays. According to the said article, a frustrated nurse, identified as Schiffmann, contacted the Senator’s office to explain the severity of the delays, urging the Senator to contact the CA BORN. Subsequently, the agency hired staff for 3 weeks to try to get caught up with the delay, and Schiffman expediently obtained her license and is now working at Doctors Medical Center. However, there has been no mention of how long ago Ms. Schiffman tried to apply for an RN License.

          I have tried to get interest from a few of our colleagues in order to better address this situation. As we know, we are our own advocates. We have our State Senators as our lifeline, and we do need to stand up for our rights, especially as it has not only put our lives in peril, but it has compromised many patients because of staff inadequacies, as well as, the staff for being overworked.

          Like you, I have tried to keep my patience and honored the Board’s request to NOT Contact them until after 90 days has elapsed since sending in one’s application. They have also stated that they no longer attend to personal applications over the counter at the Sacramento Office. The only alternative that I can really see would be a most viable and effective tool would be a mass appeal to all California State Senator to hold the CA BORN to the fire for the continued inadequacies it continues to project.

          This blog can only do so much, although I immensely appreciate what is has so far provided. Accept my apologies for this lengthy message, but feel free to respond to this in case you or any others would like to start sending letters to all CA State Senators with as many signatures as can be collected. It is a way to stir them to action, especially as each signature means a potential vote to keep them in office.

          The best of luck to everyone.

          Note: THERE IS POWER IN NUMBERS.

          Respectfully,

          Steve

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          • Shaune
            Shaune says:

            Steve, that was so well written! Thank you for the extra links, and I will certainly have a look at those. There was finally light at the end of my tunnel. After 5 months I received my RN license last week!! I’m excited to be applying for jobs now. Steve, you really seem to know a lot of the ins/outs of the problems entailing this. This has caused a great deal of turmoil for so many of us. I’d certainly be happy to send or be a part of signing a letter written to the Senator. If we needed to send, it would be nice to have help constructing an effective letter.

          • Jess
            Jess says:

            Good news…I justs got issued a license today. I thought I would give a positive update. Not sure why I got a license and others who applied before me haven’t. I’m thinking a lot of apps submitted end of last year got lost in the shuffle. Good luck to all.

  18. Nina
    Nina says:

    @Steve,
    I submitted everything 1st week of Feb. I received an email with a link for Breeze that asked me to verify it was me yesterday. Afterwards, I received an email with a temporary password. When I logged in, I noticed beside my license status it said processing. There was also an area that said it was received 03/21.
    I sent a money order, so I am unsure when it was cashed.

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    • Steve
      Steve says:

      Thank you, Nina. I should give them some more time. I submitted mine around the same time, so they’re probably close to processing my application too. I just need to be more patient. Thank you so much for your input. It certainly helps a lot.

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    • Steve
      Steve says:

      Thank you for responding promptly, OBRN. It’s a bit difficult to determine when they cashed the check I sent them, since it was a money order that I sent. My experience with other states is that they require a money order, which is why I sent remittance for required fees in the same way I have been sending payments to all Boards of Nursing.

      With regard to transcripts…the University where I received my degree has a strict policy to direct all transcript requests to the Registrar. For this reason, the Dept. of Nursing cannot process transcript requests; the department merely redirects it to the University Registrar, which keeps all these records. Prior to leaving for CA, I had to request a sealed copy of my transcripts in the even that I would need it. The University also retains Credentials Solutions as a secure means of ordering transcripts online. This allows for the electronic submission of transcripts to an entity requesting it. In my case, I have not only forwarded a sealed copy of my transcripts, but I also sent for them through Credential Solutions.

      As far as calling the CA BORN, they have published an explicit statement suggesting that all applicants do not call the BORN to follow-up on applications until at least 90 days have elapsed since sending the application, because it simply causes further delay on processing everybody’s applications. My experience with Boards of Nursing is that they tend to give an applicant more problems for non-adherence to their regulations. It seems unfair, but they simply have us “by the balls”…so to speak. (Pardon the French).

      What can RN’s do? We all need to try to send letters to our State delegates to advocate for our causes. There must be a way, besides repealing and filing complaints, to prevent these inefficiencies and covert means of oppression/intimidation against applicants. The fact is, we are at the mercy of State employees at the BON…and if they do not like any of us for whatever reason…they can do anything to further delay our licensure….On top of that, we cannot remuneration for such abuses simply because there is no way to prove it….so all we can do is “remain nice” despite the aggravation and personal impact on our finances of the BON’s inefficiencies.

      My guess is they have cashed the money order I sent that was dated on the 1st week of February (along the same time it was sent with all my documents). Still, I remain at their mercy, but it flabbergasts me as to how others (whose payments were issued and cashed later than my money order) have received an email from them already, whereas, I have not. I will honor and follow what they’ve requested applicants to do. Therefore, I will not call them until after 90 days have elapsed since sending in my application. I certainly hope that I hear from them before that, so I wouldn’t have to make the call.

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    • Steve
      Steve says:

      Erratum:

      a) “It’s a bit difficult to determine when they cashed the check I sent them, since it was a money order.”

      b) “Prior to leaving for CA, I had to request a sealed copy of my transcripts in the EVENT that I would need it.”

      c) “On top of that, we cannot EXACT remuneration for such abuses simply because there is no way to prove it….so all we can do is “remain nice” despite the aggravation and personal impact on our finances of the BON’s inefficiencies.”

      My apologies for the errors in the above statements.

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  19. OBRN
    OBRN says:

    @Nina,
    It seems like the determining factor is when they cash your check for the application fee. On the home-page of the Board of Nursing website they have a statement that they are processing applications for checks cashed in February. About 2 weeks ago is said January. It appears that they are taking 2 weeks to work through applications for that month so in theory, any day they should say “Processing applications that were cashed in March”. This is just my theory :)
    Some blogs on here have stated that the BRN has ‘misplaced’ college transcripts- causing a delay- so I would make sure when you call again that you confirm they have everything.
    They received my application on 3/17 and my check was cashed 3/31- that’s much quicker than others who waited a month or more so I’m speculating that things are actually moving along more quickly now.
    Hope that helps. Good luck

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    • Steve
      Steve says:

      Erratum:

      a) “It’s a bit difficult to determine when they cashed the check I sent them, since it was a money order.”

      b) “Prior to leaving for CA, I had to request a sealed copy of my transcripts in the EVENT that I would need it.”

      c) “On top of that, we cannot EXACT remuneration for such abuses simply because there is no way to prove it….so all we can do is “remain nice” despite the aggravation and personal impact on our finances of the BON’s inefficiencies.”

      My apologies for the errors in the above statements.

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  20. Steve
    Steve says:

    Hello, Nina.

    When did you submit your application? I sent my application (with fees) for endorsement with a request for both temporary and permanent licenses in 1st week of February, yet still have not heard from the CA BORN. When I first called the BON, a representative told me that it should take 6 to 8 weeks to at least get a temporary license. Anybody else have an opinion about this? Thank you!

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  21. Nina
    Nina says:

    I received an email from Ca BON with a link for me to be able to log into the Breeze system, although I still don’t have a license. Is this a sign that I may soon receive a Ca license?

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  22. obrn
    obrn says:

    I just wanted to provide an update with my situation and let all know the BRN website home page states they are now processing checks cashed in February. Two weeks ago it was January so that’s progress!
    I had my live scan done while in California 3/10 and called their number with my confirmation code to verify it was processed with success 48 hours later. Mailed my application to BRN with receipt confirmation 3/17 and 3/31 my check has been cashed. Looks like things are at least moving and not stagnant. Please keep us posted with ya’lls progress if you can!

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  23. kelcie
    kelcie says:

    Can a hospital “not accept” a temporary license? I was so excited that I could start my job and now I am being told they don’t accept them. What is the point of the temporary then??

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    • Steve
      Steve says:

      Kelcie, that’s the first time I’ve heard of a hospital not accepting a temporary license. All the other hospitals, nursing homes, and agencies I know have no problem with temporary licenses. I am speculating that the only reason that the hospital that you mentioned might not be accepting temporary licenses is if for some reason your permanent license does not fall through, in which case, the hospital will have to find another candidate to take your place.

      There are some applicants who, for some reason ran into some problems with their application resulting from inaccuracies in their formal application, or possibly a non-declaration of past criminal record; as a result, their temporary licenses were not renewed or extended, and their permanent licenses got denied. I am suspecting that this facility that you had mentioned had a similar experience with a prior applicant before, which clarifies why they would have policies that do not allow for hiring anyone with temporary licenses only.

      However, I do not believe that such a practice is legitimate. The CA BON permits an applicant to practice as an RN with a temporary license, pending approval of his/her permanent license. My suggestion would be for you to clear that up with the CA BON. Subsequently, if they say that the hospital is in violation of that ruling, it might be possible to file a complaint with the BON. If you decide to take it further, you may elect to file an injunction against them in court.

      Best of luck to you. I’m still waiting on any developments with regard to my application for RN License endorsement in the State of California. I understand there’s been a major delay, but I did not expect it to be this serious. I submitted my paperwork early February. It’s almost 60 days already, and I haven’t heard anything. My experience with other Boards of Nursing is such that I usually get my temporary license within 3 weeks of sending for it. This current delay is testing everyone’s patience; not to mention, putting everyone’s stability and finances in shambles.

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  24. Erin
    Erin says:

    I have already sent all the required documents around mid of January and requested for manual fingerprint card at the same time. I had sent online request twice and written request twice for the manual fingerprint card but until today I have not received anything in my mail. But I noticed they had already cashed my check around mid of last month. I am wondering how does the process work now because I have heard that the board will only cash the check once it receives all the documents, but in my case I did sent all the documents but the manual fingerprint card. The Online Breeze System has also sent me an email to verify my email add last month. Does anybody going through this same problem. Can anyone suggest me what could be my next steps. I am really wondering about it.

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  25. kelcie
    kelcie says:

    I turned everything in person to the BRN on 2/21. Check was cashed 2/27. Temp License posted on 3/25. I just called and asked the hold up on the permanent. They said it takes 4 weeks or so for transcripts to make it though the mailing office. I just checked and mine was sent out on 2/10 so hopefully the permanent is coming soon, too.

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  26. OBRN
    OBRN says:

    Kelcie
    That’s the only good news I’ve heard from all of this in awhile!
    How long did it take from the time you submitted your forms at BRN for them to cash your check and then issue the temp license??
    Were you at the BRN recently?
    Good luck to you! We are all jealous! LOL

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  27. kelcie
    kelcie says:

    I am from NYC and flew to Sacramento, did the livescan and submitted my forms to the BRN. They told me not to waste my money applying for a temp but I had already paid so much so i did it anyway. 5 weeks later I have a temp! So go to Sacramento– it works.

    Do I get a physical temp license? or is it just available for verification on the Breeze system??

    Thanks!

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    • Steve
      Steve says:

      Thank you for your post, dear colleague. I’m glad you got your temporary license. I cannot help but wonder when you applied for a temp. license, since the CA BORN no longer issues temporary licenses over the counter, so a personal visit to the Sacramento Headquarters to avail of the temporary license is rather moot at this point in time. If you did get the document just recently, please let us know.

      Having said that, I find your post a bit confusing. You state that “5 weeks later you have a temp!” Yet you ask whether you “get a physical temp license…” Could you please explain the position you’re coming from.

      Thank you.

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      • kelcie
        kelcie says:

        I posted below about my time frame…

        I have been checking the Breeze system and see that I have been issued a temp license. I guess it takes a few weeks for it to physically be mailed to me (surprise surprise). I just hope this allows me to start the job I was offered in CA!

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  28. ILRN
    ILRN says:

    Shaune, I received an identical letter dating from March 20th 2014. I wonder if it’s a mistake. I called yesterday and spoke with someone in the info department and I ask him to just give me my temp license, which I PAID FOR! When you call the main number, they don’t even pick up anymore. I just call (800)838-6828 and bother the hell out of them. Hopefully it pays off!

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    • Shaune
      Shaune says:

      I don’t know if it’s a mistake…I think they are really losing stuff in the chaos! But thanks for the number – I’ll give it a call and see what happens.

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  29. Cristal
    Cristal says:

    This week I finally received the fingerprint cards. I requested them early February and then, three weeks later, I requested them again. So it took almost 2 months for me to get them from my original request. Just wanted to let people who maybe wondering how long it will take. At this point, I have decided to do the LiveScan since I will be in California in about 2 weeks. I am hoping that will be a lot faster. Good luck everyone and let’s keep each other updated! Great blog!

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  30. Shaune
    Shaune says:

    Hi Kyle,
    It’s been a while since I’ve posted here. I hope you don’t mind a respectful vent. I sent my request for transcripts in November 2013. When I finally talked to someone on the phone at the Board in January 2014, I was told my transcripts had been received. Yesterday I received a letter from the Board stating they have not received my transcripts from the university I received my nursing degree. I just contacted that university, and they confirmed they sent those to the Board on November 22nd. I’m so frustrated as it looks like the Board lost my transcripts. Again, to all who are looking to apply here in California, please do NOT think any of the process at this time will go smoothly. =(

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  31. CK
    CK says:

    Thanks for making this blog! I’m making my move from IL to Cali by September so I started my application yesterday. I have a few questions. It says it can take up to a couple weeks to get those fingerprint cards. How long should I wait to resubmit a request for the fingerprint cards if I have not received it? Also when I do receive the cards, do I send both of them? Form only asks for one.

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    • CK
      CK says:

      Also I will be going to California May 17th, I’m wondering if I should just do the Livescan process since it will take 2 weeks to receive my fingerprint cards + processing time (2-3 months) + chance of error, or do both??

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  32. Stephen del Villar
    Stephen del Villar says:

    Greetings!

    Reading through the posted contributions and responses, I realize that at least one contributor has been waiting for 5 months for his/her license applied for via endorsement to no avail.

    I had sent my application for endorsement on February 10th and realize that it is still too early to inquire about its status, especially since the CBON issued a statement requesting everyone to wait 90 days before starting inquiries.

    Since February 7th, as per your earlier post, has anyone visited the CBON to find out why there has been so much delay processing license applications?

    Why is it only happening with the CBON while other Boards of Nursing in other states do not seem to be having the same difficulty? Is there a way to hold Boards of Nursing accountable for such inefficiency?

    Please advise. Thank you.

    Steve, RN BSN

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      • Steve
        Steve says:

        Thank you, Kyle. I certainly hope so. From the looks of it, however, I’m not holding my breath. Needless to say, the situation is utterly unacceptable? By any chance, have you been able to pay them a visit yet? Are there any other updates save for the ones provided for in the blog posts you pointed me to? I strongly feel that there should be a system in place to advocate for professional nurses. The inadequacies of the BON severely impact our lives, income, and stability. We are held to a high standard that not even the BON is able to uphold for itself. They have all of us by the balls, so to speak. Pardon the French.

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  33. Ashley
    Ashley says:

    Hello,
    I sent in my application in the beginning of Feb. They have not even cashed my check yet and I’m understanding it’s 90 days from that point. How long did it take/ does it take for them to cash your check? Is there any way to check if my background check has even processed or if there was a problem with the fingerprints? Was I supposed to send my fingerprints somewhere other than CBON?
    Please help, I’m getting really nervous.

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    • Mike
      Mike says:

      Not to worry, I sent in my application on November 8, 2013, they ddin’t cash my check until December 26. I still haven’t even received my temporary license! This was an endorsement from FL, and I am also licensed in NV. I went to BON on 3/11 they told me it would be 2 – 3 days. After 7 business days, still nothing. I called them 2 times today, once they told me someone would call me in 5-7 days and then the second call someone told me I would have a temporary license in 24 hours. I hope you are not counting on the license being there soon. The BON states they are taking 90 days with all applicants. If there are any issues out of the ordinary, plan on another 90 days – so total 180 days. This is certainly unacceptable but there is no choice.

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  34. ILRN
    ILRN says:

    At this point they are discouraging people from applying for a temp license. call this # 800-838-6828, they should be able to guide you.

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  35. Northern IL RN
    Northern IL RN says:

    I have been waiting five months for my license via endorsement. Allmy documents are accounted for as of Jan. 6th. IN my many phone calls to the board of nursing I have learned that I have a less than efficient transcript evaluator. I did not initially apply for a temp license but due to the time involved here I am wondering if I should apply for a temp. Will a temp application slow down the process at this point in time? Or confuse the matter even more? I was hoping to take a travel position by July and now I am starting to wonder if this is even remotely possible.

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    • Mike
      Mike says:

      @ Northern IL RN, I applied last November, hoping to take a travel assignment in March this year….here we are. I was told all documents were accounted for on Jan 16th. Been to BON 2 times, they keep promising. I also paid for the temporary license which they were issuing when I applied. I have nothing at all from the BON but a lot of hot air. I hope you are able to accomplish your goal of a travel position in July. I will be in Alaska by then. They are not issuing temporary license any longer at this point in time. They will refund your money supposedly if you paid for one and never received it prior to your permanent license. It could take a long time to get the money back but hey – why not.

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    • Ashley, PA RN
      Ashley, PA RN says:

      Hello, when did you send in your application? How long did it take for them to cash your check? How did you find out all of your documents were correct?
      Do not apply for the temp license, it’s basically useless.

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  36. Linda
    Linda says:

    I went recently got my temporary. They cashed my check in the end of January. The temporary is just issued if everything is turned in and fingerprints are done but you’re missing transcripts. The best thing to do is goto the office and bug them. I went everyday for 3 weeks. They were taking forever with the temporary and just waiting on my transcripts so I asked for my money back and all the sudden they produced a temp

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  37. Mat
    Mat says:

    Hi Kyle!

    Fantastic job moderating this, and excellent responses (very helpful). My wife is currently an RN in here in CO, but I just got a job out in San Fran so we plan on moving out that way in the coming months. We are going to go out to Cali for vacation in April and plan to get the LiveScan done then. What do we need to get that done? I saw the LiveScan paperwork you posted, do we just fill that out and bring it in? Could you also elaborate more on why we should go to Sacramento to get it done?

    And finally, I know you posted that even with LiveScan ppl are seeing delays, but is it safe to say that going the LiveScan route is still faster than waiting for fingerprints in the mail?

    THANK YOU!

    Mat

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    • Kyle Schmidt
      Kyle Schmidt says:

      Hey Mat,

      Thanks! We’re glad to hear that this information is useful. Congratulations on your new job! At this point, it’s difficult to tell whether or not a Livescan will speed up the processing of your California RN license by endorsement application. However, it’s fair to say that it will dramatically lessen the chance of potential delays. Delays can happen if the FBI and DOJ lag in processing the fingerprint cards, or if the prints are smudged and unreadable. Typically, RNs from out of state would come to Sacramento to get the LiveScan done so they could immediately go to the California Board of Nursing and have their temporary license processed on the spot. However, the board is not offering that service currently. But, you may still want to visit the board to try and ask questions or check on the status of your wife’s application. Yes, to the best of my knowledge, you just fill out the LiveScan form and take to any LiveScan location. At some point, they’ll get the kinks ironed out and get back on track. Maybe that happens before your trip in April…although it sounds unlikely at this point.

      We hope this helps!

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      • Mat
        Mat says:

        Thanks Kyle!

        That helps a lot! Now I understand the desire for Sacramento, although we will probably avoid the temp license (as you said, they are not taking apps at the moment). Once we get the LiveScan do we have to take the paperwork anywhere else? Or do they forward the paperwork where it needs to go?

        Thanks again (so much) for awesome info.

        Mat

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        • Kyle Schmidt
          Kyle Schmidt says:

          Thanks and you’re welcome, Mat! The actual results of the Livescan are transmitted from the DOJ to the California Board of Nursing. However, the Baord provides 3 copies of the “Request for Livescan Service” form. One is for the Livescan operator (the people who conduct the Livescan). One is for the applicant (you). One is for the Requesting Agency. To the best of my knowledge, you need to turn this form into the California Board of Nursing. It could be mailed in. But I’d recommend taking all the documents in together. It’s still a mess over there and if things get messed up with your application packet, then it could be very difficult to iron out.

          I hope this helps!

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          • mdvogels
            mdvogels says:

            Hi Kyle,

            My wife applied for her fingerprints only a few weeks ago, and has already received them in the mail. We are planning on going to California mid-April to do the LiveScan, but would it also make sense to submit/mail back the fingerprint cards we received in the mail? Would it just cause confusion if she submitted fingerprints AND we did a LiveScan?

            Thanks again for the help!

            Mat

          • Kyle Schmidt
            Kyle Schmidt says:

            Hey Mat,

            It’s great to hear that you received the fingerprint cards in a relatively short time frame. Thanks for sharing that information. I think it would be best to just go with the LiveScan. It’s highly unlikely that the results of the traditional fingerprints will be completed before your mid-April trip and the LiveScan results are pretty much immediate. And yes, at this point, doing both could cause confusion given the circumstances.

  38. Brandon
    Brandon says:

    Any word on the delay for the temp licenses? My wife flew in from Maryland last week to get her live scan done in order to speed up the process.

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  39. Cristal
    Cristal says:

    Hello,
    I submitted all required information to obtain a California license by endorsement. All that I am left to do is the dreaded fingerprints. I have requested the fingerprint cards and have not received them and, according to this blog, I am not the only one and there are some delays with receiving the cards. At this point, as I continue to wait, I am considering doing the Live Scan. I will be in California for a week in mid-April. Do you think I should do the Live Scan when I visit in April or if I receive the fingerprint cards in the mail in the next few days or weeks go that route?
    In addition, when filling out the Live Scan form, it says to fill out the form any where there is an “X.” Since I live in Indiana, I do not have a CA driver’s license so do I just leave that part of the application blank or put “N/A”? In addition, in the eye color and hair color section do I use the abbreviations that are used on the fingerprint cards or just write out the color? Sorry about all the questions, I just want to make sure I do everything right. Thanks in advance.

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  40. Dawn
    Dawn says:

    Great blog! Thanks for all the useful info- Now I’m really freaked out though because I accepted a job in California, gave my 30 day notice at my current job and have a moving company coming 3/24 to pack up my whole family and move us 2500 miles away and I may not be able to start working!
    I am coming to California next week March 4- to finalize my work physical- and will get my Live Scan done while I’m there. My endorsement state participates in Nursys and I’ve already requested transcripts be sent- so in theory- all should be speedy- but not from what I’m hearing on here. I’m not sure what to do!
    In addition to any advice you may have- Does anyone know if a California Driving License is required for the Live Scan because on the Request for Live Scan Service Application form one of the required areas to be filled out is a ‘California Driver’s License #’. Can anyone tell me from their own experience if I need a Driver’s License # or if I can fill in N/A??
    Thanks again,

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    • Kyle Schmidt
      Kyle Schmidt says:

      Hey Dawn,

      Thanks and you’re welcome! We’re glad to hear the information is useful. On the plus side, you should not need a California Driver’s License. We have worked with countless travel nurses over the years, all of whom obtained their California RN license by endorsement without a California Driver’s License. On the down side, the current license processing issues at the California Board of Nursing will almost certainly delay your license. WWe can’t be 100% certain, but it’s a disaster over there right now. Employers are aware of the issues and many are willing to wait, but you should communicate with your new employer ASAP. You may want to try and stay on with your current employer a little longer, even if it’s PRN status. This has been going on since October and Lawmakers and employers are beginning to really apply pressure…so hopefully it clears up soon!

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    • Shaune
      Shaune says:

      Hi Dawn, No problem with having an out of state drivers license when you go to Livescan. I was worried about the same thing as it wasn’t clear on the application if they did accept out of state DLs, but they took my Colorado license. Also, it’s so humbling as I also quit my job thinking it would not be this long to get a license. Now I’m unemployed and looking for ANYTHING to get by as I don’t qualify for unemployment since I did quit voluntarily. I had to go apply for food assistance, too. Very discouraging.

      Kyle, I’d like to send a letter to address this. It took me 4 hours to fill out the application, drive to the office, have a face to face meeting and walk out with a food assistance EBT card. But it’s taking from November 2013 until who-knows-when (at least April 2014) to get an RN license! Who is the best person to send a letter to address this problem at state/government level? It’s so frustrating to want to be employed, want to work, could be earning an excellent salary and paying taxes INTO the system. But here I am having to take. =(

      Also, the Board of Nursing should acknowledge on their website that they aren’t sending out fingerprint cards by mail. I request mine for 6 weeks before moving, sent follow up emails with no reply, no cards, no phone call. They specifically say they will be delivered within 2 weeks…reality seems to say they aren’t sending them at all. =/

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    • Rach
      Rach says:

      Dawn, I did the Live Scan without a CA drivers license. You do not need one. Additionally, my state participates in the Nursys, and that hasn’t sped up my process any. I really would look into trying to stay on longer with your current job.. Best of luck to you!

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  41. Shaune
    Shaune says:

    Can you tell me where I went wrong?? I was living in Colorado and requested the fingerprint cards. After 6 weeks, they never came, and I moved to California as planned. I did the Livescan on 12/26/13, and confirmed last week by the DoJ that all was well. I sent my application in, and have been told all documents have been received, but my fingerprints/background has not been “associated” with my application yet, and this will take 90 DAYS from the time they received my application. I sent my application on 12/27/13 – they acknowledged receiving it on 1/28/14. The whole process has been frustrating…starting in November 2013 and being told I probably won’t hear anything until the end of April 2014. This is nothing like the process you’ve described. Is there anything I can do at this point to obtain my license any sooner???

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    • Kyle Schmidt
      Kyle Schmidt says:

      Hey Shaune,

      It doesn’t sound like you did anything wrong. Unfortunately, the California Board of Nursing has been experiencing difficulties with BreEZe, a new online licensing and enforcement system, since the system was implemented in October. We’ve tried to communicate the impact where applicable in this blog post and will continue to provide updates as we receive them. We are unable to confidently provide any guidance or recommendations as the process is currently broken.

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  42. Lorna
    Lorna says:

    I was just wondering if you applied for a temp license or not, and if so have you gotten them yet and how long did it take to get them? I have a job that I’m very interested in and they want me in CA ASAP but I did not think it was such a hassle to get license. So any advice would be great! Thanks.

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    • Shaune
      Shaune says:

      I was initially told that it would take almost as long to get the temp license as it was to get the permanent. But that was before this 90 day wait came into effect, so I wonder if it will delay getting a temp license, too?

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        • Mike
          Mike says:

          Yes, that is true, temporary license are delayed, they are taking the 90 days. Additionally, I was told by the department of Consumer Affairs that they are not answering their phones. The department of Consumer Affairs are assisting the BON with the application process and phone calls. It would seem that somewhere along the line, someone would step in to resolve this very frustrating issue that seems to be affecting many peoples lives in a negative way.

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      • ILRN
        ILRN says:

        Hi Shaune, I applied for a CA license in January 14 (temp & perm). I finally got the chance to speak with someone at the BRN on Friday and was told that ” if I had called before applying, they would have told me to not even worry about the temp license because I might receive my permanent license before the temp”. My check wasn’t cashed until February, according to him, so I have to wait until May. Shame on me, I already moved my family to CA and I will probably forfeit my job offer :(

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        • Cecily
          Cecily says:

          ILRN…so they are still saying 90 days after checks are cashed? My plan is to move from Illinois to California in July and my check has not been cashed yet (it’s just been 4 weeks since I mailed everything). I too applied for the temp, so I guess I wasted my money. What I really need to know is if my fingerprint cards are good enough, if not I will need to do livescan when I visit next month. This whole process is making me nervous as if the move isn’t nerve wrecking enough!

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          • ILRN
            ILRN says:

            Cecily, I was told it is 90 days from the day they cash in your check. I was in California in early January on vacation and did the livescan then. I suggest you do the same when visiting. On the board’s website they have a list of approved vendor. It’s a very easy process.

            Let me know how everything goes.

    • Kyle Schmidt
      Kyle Schmidt says:

      Hey Lorna,

      We are receiving reports that the California Board of Nursing is currently recommending against applying for a Temporary License. Due the technical difficulties they are experiencing with their new online licensing and enforcement system, they are experiencing major delays in processing all licenses. We’ll try and get some additional information up here ASAP.

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      • Lorna
        Lorna says:

        Thanks everyone for the advice. I’m thinking about taking an assignment in South Carolina since it’s a walk through state and hopefully I will have CA license by the time I’m done with that assignment.

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    • Rach
      Rach says:

      Hello Lorna, I did apply for the temp license, and I’ve been told I still need to wait the 90 days. So at this point, the temp license seems very useless, to be honest. Thankfully I’m blessed to be in a position where my job is willing to wait. So I’m not quitting my current job until I have my CA license in hand. That would be my advise to most. You don’t want to be without a paycheck for an unknown amount of time. One thing I have learned is that there is a CA statute that gives the BRN up to 120 days to process requests. Even then, I have low expectations… ;) Just clarify with your job about their willingness to wait. This is a statewide problem, not just you!

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  43. Carrie
    Carrie says:

    I sent in my CA RN endorsement application in late November 2013, came to the Board in person December 12, 2013 with livescan items in tow, and today, February 17, I still don’t have a license. I have been calling the Department of Consumer Affairs, the Board of RNs, and the Governor’s office twice weekly since the last week in January to no avail. I am seriously considering going back to Sacramento this week and maybe getting the local news involved. My job was supposed to begin two weeks ago. Anyone in a similar predicament and interested in coming with me?

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    • Rach
      Rach says:

      Carrie, Im in a very similar predicament with a job that is to start soon. I submitted my application with live scan in mid-December. I contacted the office early Feb as I still had received nothing. They said my check wasnt cashed till Jan 21 and I should receive my license within 90 days. I’m as frustrated as you since that leaves me in limbo with not knowing when to quit my current job and move cross country. I’m considering going to Sacramento too just to see if that would speed up the process.

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      • Mike
        Mike says:

        Going to the CA BON won’t likely help. I went there about a week ago. They have had my application since late December. Now, they have all the paperwork necessary and said license would be issued in 2 – 3 days, we are on business day 7 now and still nothing. I called and was told just keep checking online. They don’t even process their mail for 4 weeks. So, if your application was received the first week March, it will not get processed until the first week of April – then you can expect at least 3 months before you hear anything. Very frustrating indeed.

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    • Kyle Schmidt
      Kyle Schmidt says:

      Carrie,

      Do you know when the California Board of Nursing cashed your application check? They are claiming it will take 90 days from the date that your check was cashed for the license to be active, assuming everything was received. We’re sorry to hear of the delay and hope it works out soon!

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  44. Ashley
    Ashley says:

    since I live out of state of California, I have already sent a request for manual fingerprint card one month ago but still I have not received the card. Do you know how long does it take?

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    • Kyle Schmidt
      Kyle Schmidt says:

      Ashley,

      It’s very tough to answer any timing questions at this time due to the unusual circumstances facing the California Board of Nursing. Under normal circumstances, I’d say you should have definitely received those fingerprint cards by now. All requests for both new licenses and licenses by endorsement are backed up due to the technical issues they’re experiencing. We wish we could provide more detailed information and we’d love to hear back from you regarding how this turns out for you.

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  45. Angela
    Angela says:

    Hi Kyle, thanks your information is great. I thought CA required a couple courses for the licensure. Like child abuse or something else? do you know about this?
    Thanks, Angela

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  46. Smiley
    Smiley says:

    Hi Kyle
    I had done all paper formalities it’s been 4 months. Also want to apply for ARNP license. I m totally confused as what to do. It seems like never ending wait BTW how is the ARNP market there I m boards certified adult ARNP
    Thx

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  47. Amina
    Amina says:

    Hi
    I have received my temporary RN license and it expires in March. I had tried to call BON but always busy signal. How will it take for me to receive my permanent RN license. ? Also I want apply for ARNP license and I have take my national certification exam and they have sent my passing score to CA BON
    Any ideas?? What to do
    Thx
    Smiley

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    • Kyle Schmidt
      Kyle Schmidt says:

      Hey Smiley,

      Thanks for the questions. I believe the California Board of Nursing quotes 4-6 weeks for a permanent license to be issued, assuming they receive all the required paperwork. Delays can occur for several reasons, but most delays for permanent licenses are due to problems with transcripts and fingerprints (although they should already have your fingerprints taken care of if you have a temp license). You should be able to check the status of your California nursing license on the license verification system. What’s the status there?

      My apologies, but I’m unable to discern what steps you’ve taken to apply for your NP license. Have you completed the application and submitted the rest of the required paperwork? If so, are you able to check the status on verification website?

      Thanks again!

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  48. Liz
    Liz says:

    Hi,

    I will be applying for a temporary and permanent RN license by endorsement. Does anyone know if I can submit finger print cards from my local police department rather than waiting for the cards to arrive from California? The finger print cards appear to have all of the same information. Also, do I need to submit 2 copies or 1?

    Thank you!

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    • Kyle Schmidt
      Kyle Schmidt says:

      Hey Liz,

      I hope all is well. To obtain your California RN license, the board needs 2 fingerprint cards because one goes to the DOJ and the other goes to the FBI. Unfortunately, I’m not 100% certain about whether you can use fingerprint cards from your local police department. I attempted to contact the California Board of Nursing but was unable to get through. I’ll try again when able and update this comment if I’m able to get through. However, my gut tells me that you need to use the cards provided by the California Board of Nursing. I spoke with a local fingerprinting business who explained that many State of California governmental bodies require obtaining fingerprint cards from the body. The cards are then pre-printed with required information and sent to the requester. They do this to avoid processing issues on their end. They were uncertain as to whether or not the Board of Nursing had this same requirement. We’ll do our best to find out though. Hope this information helps and good luck!

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      • Megan
        Megan says:

        Hi Kyle,

        Thanks for all this information. I sent in my application last week with only 1 fingerprinting card. I did receive two from the board but figured this was in case of smudging or any other problems as I read nothing in the application about submitting two. In fact, it specifically states “All applicants for licensure by endorsement are required to complete and submit one (1) set of
        fingerprints.” Where did you find that we need to submit two? Should I go have the other card done and send it in as well?

        I also had a question regarding verification. I am a travel nurse and currently hold a license in Texas (my home state), Massachusetts, and a temporary in Washington. Do I need to verify all of these through Nursys or just my Texas license?

        Thanks so much,

        Megan

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        • Kyle Schmidt
          Kyle Schmidt says:

          Hey Megan,

          This information was provided by a local fingerprinting service. However, a thorough review of the California Board of Nursing Endorsement Application indicates that you only need one fingerprint card. You should be fine. My apologies for the confusion. I’ll make a trip in there this week to ensure this information is correct.

          Also, according to the Endorsement Application, you should only need to submit one license verification from a state in which you hold a current, active license. I’ll ask about this too and report back.

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  49. Joseph
    Joseph says:

    Hi there,
    All the information here are helpful.
    I am concern with my application. I’m planning to endorse my license from IL to CA, and I am an international graduate. I red different forums relating to the required subjects/units to take for foreign graduates before they take NCLEX in CA. Any idea if I still need to take that requirements tho I’m already an RN from other state (IL)? Thanks

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    • Kyle Schmidt
      Kyle Schmidt says:

      Hey Joseph,

      Unfortunately, I don’t have that much experience with foreign educated nurses. However, the “CALIFORNIA BOARD OF REGISTERED NURSING
      APPLICATION FOR LICENSURE AS A REGISTERED NURSE” states the following:

      In addition to obtaining license verification from the state where you hold a current and active license, you must also obtain verification of passage of the appropriate licensing examination from the board of nursing where you took the examination (NCLEX-RN, SBTPE, or five-part licensing examination in Canada).

      ALSO:

      International Graduates: Must also submit a Verification of License form to the board
      of nursing where the examination was taken.

      These instructions imply that you will not need to take the requirements. While there are additional hoops that you must jump through, it appears that the board will honor the fact that you met the requirements in another state.

      I hope this helps!

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  50. Jacqueline
    Jacqueline says:

    I have practiced nursing and have a current RN license for over 20 yrs in a different State than where I took my exam and obtained my original license. My active license is in a state that is part of nursys verification, however the state I received my original license is not (WV), and has to be completed through snail mail. I am planning a trip to Sacremento just to complete the live scan and obtain a temp license. Do they have to receive verification of my original license prior to granting me a temp license? Also, I received an ADN at one college, became an RN and went back to school for my BSN. Do they need transcripts from both degrees before I can get a license? Just want to make sure I have everything in order before making the trip. Thanks for your help.

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    • Kyle Schmidt
      Kyle Schmidt says:

      Hi Jacqueline,

      I’m not 100% certain, but I believe you should be able to get your temporary California RN license with the Nursys verification for your active license. The guidelines from the California State Board of Nursing state, “Proof of clear and active RN license from state of endorsement”…So, the license must be active and it doesn’t say anything specific about requiring your original license. Also, they do not require your college transcripts to get your temporary license. However, they need all transcripts before granting the permanent license.

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    • Kyle Schmidt
      Kyle Schmidt says:

      Thanks for the question, Courtney. Yes, you could get a temporary license without transcripts the last time I checked. Again, if you are able to be present at the BON in Sacramento, CA, then you can have your temporary license very quickly by getting Livescan fingerprints completed (the results are received almost instantly). If you are not able to be present, then it will be unlikely that obtaining a temporary license will save much time. This is because the results for standard fingerprints typically take much longer than transcripts.

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  51. Sharon
    Sharon says:

    I’m traveling to Sacremento next week , and wonder if you have the names of Livescans near the BON.
    Thanks so much for your help.

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    • Kyle Schmidt
      Kyle Schmidt says:

      The BON is at 1747 N Market Blvd Sacramento, CA 95834. The closest live scan location is at America’s Testing Center, 4105 South Market Court Sacramento, CA 95834. Telephone number (916)215-7299. You can also google the following: live scan locations Sacramento for a more options. I hope this helps!

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  52. karenscamacho@gmail.com
    karenscamacho@gmail.com says:

    i just recently submitted my application for endorsement from Illinois.. Its been 4 weeks and i still havent received anything.. i was wondering if i also need to submit my lpn transcript.. I only submitted my RN transcript from a community college.. How can check the status of my license if i am missing something or not

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  53. katrina
    katrina says:

    Thanks for the info, I just wish I would have read it before I submitted my application. I did it the snail mail way and paid extra for the temp license and now I’m waiting in limbo for the temp license to be issued. Now that I’m reading that this can still take a while, I’m considering taking a trip to Cali to submit my livescan fingerprint to expedite this process. I live in KY so this will be expensive with hotel and airfare but it may be worth it if I can start working quicker. I just need to know if I can submit livescan fingerprints if I have already submitted the paper fingerprint board.

    Thanks,

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    • travelhealthtip
      travelhealthtip says:

      Hey Katrina, You’re welcome! I’m glad to hear you found the information useful. I believe that you should be able to come to California, complete the LiveScan, take the results to the CBON, and receive your temporary license. According to their document titled “Minimum Requirements for a Temporary License When Applying at the Board Office” (http://www.rn.ca.gov/pdfs/applicants/tlcounter.pdf)

      “If you mailed your endorsement application and Temporary License request to the BRN and you now wish to obtain a Temporary License at the BRN office, please be advised that the BRN must receive and process the fingerprint results from the DOJ and the FBI prior to issuance of the Temporary License.”

      It sounds like they’re saying they must receive and process fingerprint results prior to issuing a temporary. A LiveScan would therefore suffice because the results are immediate.

      That said, I recommend contacting them to get their verbal assurance before flying out. I know it’s difficult to get through, but if you keep hitting redial, you’ll get through to someone eventually.

      I hope this is helpful. Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.

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  54. Aliza Ben-Baruch
    Aliza Ben-Baruch says:

    Can i book a one day flight to sacramento, complete a livescan, submit my application and then do the transcripts/nursys after, or do i need to have the transcripts/nursys at the time I submit my application?

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    • travelhealthtip
      travelhealthtip says:

      Hey Aliza, Good question. I believe you can complete the livescan and application first and then take care of the transcripts and nursys later. Of course, they will not issue the license until the transcripts and nursys are received. That said, I’d still recommend taking care of the nursys verification first. It should be very quick and easy. That way, you can get a temporary license when you visit California while they wait for your transcripts to issue the permanent license. Please let me know if there are any questions.

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      • Aliza Ben-Baruch
        Aliza Ben-Baruch says:

        Thank You. I have completed the nursys verification and will hope to get transcripts done this week. I have an early AM flight from Denver to Sacramento (returning same day in the late evening). I contacted the nearest place that does livescan and they said they see nurses coming in for one day to get the temp license. As for the transcripts, I was wondering if you knew whether the transcripts will hold me up for the temp license issuing. As i understand it,they require transcripts prior to issuing the temp license- is this correct? This will be my 3rd assignment and I am TRYING very hard to get the temporary license, complete interviewing, drug screen, housing and relocating by the orientation date of 5/22.

        Thanks for the info, very helpful

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        • travelhealthtip
          travelhealthtip says:

          You’re very welcome! To the best of my knowledge, transcripts are required for temporary licenses only for those who received their education from outside the US. Here is a link for the minimum requirements for temporary license: http://www.rn.ca.gov/pdfs/applicants/tlcounter.pdf

          Note that it only references transcripts under “Out-of-Country Education”.

          That said, we maybe able to confirm this on Monday during the Board’s normal business hours. Will this be in time for your flight?

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  55. Brazi1nut
    Brazi1nut says:

    Hi there,
    Very accurate information, as I just applied to CA by endorsement yesterday. I’ve mailed my university the request for transcript form as well. I am hoping to have my CA licence by April. All I have left to do is, like you mentioned, is that dreaded fingerprinting. Currently I live and work in another state. I am visiting my boyfriend in San Francisco in early March and was planning on doing the Livescan fingerprinting while I’m there. Do you think this will work out ok?

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    • travelhealthtip
      travelhealthtip says:

      Hey Brazi1nut!

      I’m glad you found the information useful. Yes, I believe that you should be able to take care of the Livescan when you visit in March. I recommend trying to get the Livescan form prior to your visit in March, just to make it easier and avoid a run-around. Then, you should be able to find a LiveScan provider somewhere in San Francisco. I don’t believe that they’ll send the LiveScan form out of state, but I do believe that you can request it be sent to your boyfriend’s address. However, I’m not certain. Please let us know if you find out. Worst case…you can make a trip to the nursing board in Sacramento. The drive is less than 2 hours from San Francisco. Let us know if you have any questions, concerns, or updates!!

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